Chinese-Americans urge Obama to reject Japan’s request for Senkaku support

Chinese-Americans urge Obama to reject Japan’s request for Senkaku support

A group of Chinese-Americans, called “Concerned Citizens on U.S. Policy Towards Japan,” wrote a letter addressed to U.S. President Barack Obama calling for the rejection of Japan’s request for support and assistance regarding the disputed Senkaku Islands. Drafted by University of Southern California professor, Wenji V. Chang, who is also a Chinese-American, the group points out that Japan is merely attempting to revise its pacifist constitution.

Chang believes that the visit of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to Washington this month will have a massive effect on the peace, stability and prosperity of the countries in the Pacific. He felt that it was necessary to inform Obama of his people’s concerns and to make a public call for him to reject Japan’s request. In the letter, Chang said that during Abe’s visit, he will ask Obama for support in the Senakaku issue and seek opinion on revising Article 9 of the Japanese constitution, which declares that Japan renounces war as a sovereign right. The letter went on by saying that Abe will justify the request by offering continued support to U.S. military presence in East Asia.

The letter warns Obama that Abe’s administration is not a long-term friend of the U.S. It pointed out that Japan will cease to be an ally should Article 9 be revised. It also made reference to 1943 Cairo Declaration and the 1945 Potsdam Proclamation, which required Japan to return Chinese territories it had occupied but was never properly executed. Stated in the letter that since Japan does not acknowledge that there is any dispute in the Senkakus, it has in fact shut the door to a meaningful negotiation. It ends by saying that the “U.S. should not become a tool of Japanese ultra-conservatives” and called on fellow citizens to support the group’s stance.

[via Sinchew]
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  • Far East

    This so called professor Wenji V. Chang is nothing more than a communist Chinese spreading Chinese Government propaganda. The mere fact that he still refers to the Postdam declaration (made at gun point right after the cease fire in 1945) and completely neglect to mention the San Francisco Treat signed in 1952 with 50 nations defining today’s Japan shows the ill founded reasoning of his actions.

    The rest of all his attempt to trigger fears among americans is just rubbish.

    That’s really pretty much pathetic attempt fro the Chinese Government when you think of it. They really are kind of desperate.

    • Banlas theway

      When the japanese bastards have never properly atoned for their heinous crimes and now even in the progress of whitewashing their crimes like comfort women and Nanking massacre, the world is making a colossal mistake of overlooking Japanese evil hearts. However God will not be forgive them. The first of God’s fury is japan fukushima earthquake, and eventually a massive earthquake in the whole japan, causing all their nuclear plants to be destroyed and pollute their environments. By then the bastards will have no place to go except to drown themselves in the pacific ocean. As much I am not angry with the common Japanese people but at least to all those japanese bastards who have never repented for the past crimes.

      • Far East

        Oops…
        Site of the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs :
        “Japan has always engraved in mind feelings of deep remorse and heartfelt apology with regard to the tremendous damage and suffering that it caused in the past through its colonial rule and aggression to the people of many countries, particularly to those of Asian nations. On various occasisions, Japan has clearly expressed these feelings of remorse and apology, and its resolve to ensure that such an unfortunate history is never repeated”
        http://www.mofa.go.jp/policy/q_a/faq16.html

        • Shuami

          Right, and afterward you would have government officials of various status who come out either deny or white-wash any of these admissions and apologies. A true reflection of the comical revolving-door phenomena of the Japanese government and the schizophrenic nature of its government policy. While the German government institutes laws criminalizing any act of Holocaust denial, the Japanese government has kept a closed eye, or sometimes even be involved in these activities. Take, for example, a recent story on JapanToday (“Tensions linger in U.S. over ‘comfort women’ plaques”)–it is revealed that during the incident, Japanese consular officials visited the town, first asked to donate books to their library and then asked the major that “it would nice to take the monument down”.
          (http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/tensions-linger-in-u-s-over-comfort-women-plaques)
          And then you have the likes of the mayor of Nagoya (a “sister” city of Nanking, for god’s sake!) Kawamura and Tokyo governor Ishihara who flatly denied the Nanking massacre: “Tokyo governor backs Nanjing massacre denial”
          (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gqqzO2hCm4p_W9kawUJsV85RS1RA?docId=CNG.55872017a52d4f3c1e40d17a3ebe2909.561)
          And do I have to mention Abe, the current PM?…
          I guess more “Oops” from you, Far East?!

          • A.C.

            I think you have a point there (you’ll probably soon enough be considered as a PRC government paid spy ;-)

            While I think it is necessary to find clear words about the actions of the Chinese government and don’t keep shut up out of political reasoning, I can’t help wondering how many posters go to the other extreme and justifying and idealizing anything Japanese.

            Besides, the lines seperating the positions here are not the nation’s boundaries: I’ve already read several stories by and about Japanese people trying to clear up things about the war atrocities (and not only against foreigners – there was even a lot of violence against other Japanese people, which is even less publicly talked about), who had to endure severe harassment for asking unpleasant questions about the past.

            Point is: You can’t generalize groups or nations, but that means both in negative as in positive ways.

            My 2 cents, そんだけ…

          • Shuami

            “you’ll probably soon enough be considered as a PRC governmental paid spy”
            Not “soon” actually–I have already been the target of various unflattering labels. And I would have been a rich man if I did get paid.
            “… who had to endure severe harassment for asking unpleasant questions about the past.”
            Well, you would notice that most of the violence perpetrated during the anti-Japanese protest in China were actually against Chinese nationals who happened to be driving Japanese cars…

          • Far East

            More delusional allegations without ground from you. You just don’t know Japan.

          • Shuami

            “More delusional allegations without ground from you.”
            I quoted 3 sources, which one recounts event that has actually happened, with time, place and people involved clearly stated. How’s that allegation? How’s that without ground?? And how’s that delusional???
            “you make reference to people who are rather the exception”
            The consular officials are government officials, so are mayor, governor and PM, and they spoke at official functions. They are the official voice of the Japanese government. If they don’t represent Japan, who do? Even we assume that they don’t represent the majority of the population, how could a government official speak of something that is against government policy without the fear of retribution? What does it say about a government that does not reinforce its own policy?

          • Far East

            Like me and other have told you, I have been living in Japan for along time, and at contrary of what you are trying to imply, the Japanese are not attempting to revise history. All the Japanese resent the former Imperial Army actions during WWII, just like today’s Chinese should resent the mass killing done by Mao. You have a seriously string bias, and you simply lack knowledge of what you are talking about.

          • Shuami

            I don’t object to the notion that the majority of the Japanese population resents “the former Imperial Army actions during WWII”, and that they “are not attempting to revise history”. What I want to point out is that the Japanese government has not demonstrated the will and power to adhere a consistent policy, and its government has often been hijacked by rightist elements at various times of its revolving door administrations. This is not unlike the situation in the US where a powerful AIPAC lobby has welded an undue influence over its congress and hence its foreign policy in regard to the state of Israel, while the majority of the population does not support the unconditional support of Israel and its bellicose policy in the middle east. The secondary point I want to make is that it is just ludicrous to put Mao and his deeds during the latter part of his life in the same breath as the Japanese Imperil Army and the heinous war crimes it committed during the WW2. There is no question Mao’s policy in his latter years has caused immeasurable damage to China as a nation, setting it back 30-40 years behinds other nations, and numerous lost lives during the same time. But that’s a quantum of difference between what he’s done and the atrocities committed by the Japanese Imperil Army. I think you are the one who “simply lack knowledge of what you are talking about”, or you are just deliberately confusing these two to score a political point.

          • Far East

            Mao massacred over 30 millions Chinese, the biggest massacre in human histor according to an historian quoted on Wikipedia, so you are right it is a quantum leap, or maybe more simply a Great Leap Backward. Supporting this barbarism, or failing to recognize thiose atrocities reflects some serious lack of objectivity. Anyone reading this will be their own judge.
            I agree there is a convenient use of Chinese Government constant infringement on Japanese sovereignty to push for increase in military spending and tougher stance. But, I have yet to hear from the Government any change in the official position of Japan. A position which is the reflection of the Japanese people as I explained earlier.

          • Shuami

            I am the worse kind of defender, at best (I think I would be the harshest critics instead) of Mao’s policy. However, he did not massacre 30M people! He turned one group of people against another during a power struggle for political gains. Carnage has ensured, but during no time were guns turned against one another. About the only time the government has ordered guns against its people was during the TianAnMen Square Protest (though not under Mao’s ruling anymore), and its action was rightly and soundly condemned by the whole world, and that’s the only massacre that I am aware of. The West wants to paint a picture of hellish China for political purposes, a tactics which, ironically, was exactly the same as used by the communist China to depict the West during those years. Funny how ideological difference could have totally distorted the reality. And myopic fools like you are still picking it up as a weapon.
            “…infringement on Japanese sovereignty”. Who said that the Islands are “Japanese sovereignty”? Did the UN say that? Care to a provide the name of a country that has said that? Even your puppet master the US has only recognized that Japan has the “control” of the Islands.

          • Far East

            “The West”? Wao, the last time this expression was used was by Soviet Union. Anyway….
            This is what Wikipedia quotes about the Great Leap Forward. How ironic really to call t like that:
            “Historian Frank Dikötter asserts that “coercion, terror, and systematic violence were the very foundation of the Great Leap Forward” and it “motivated one of the most deadly mass killings of human history.”"

            Today’s Japan is defined by the Treaty of San Francisco, signed by 50 nations and it’s article 3 that defines the Nansei Shoto that include the Senkaku islands to be returned to Japan.
            I understand that China is contesting this, but they are going against the rest of the world on this. Aside of the Kunio islands in the north (a separate topic) and the Takeshima/Dokdo

            Talking about “myopic fool” hu?
            I recommend you document yourself better and so more research, as I have done.

          • Shuami

            “coercion, terror, and systematic violence”, all true, but that’s NOT massacre! And definitely not something to be put in the same category as the bestial atrocities perpetrated by the Japanese Imperial Army against humanity during the WW2.
            “Today’s Japan is defined by the Treaty of San Francisco”. Of which neither the government of the ROC nor that of the PRC was invited and present?
            And you may also have conveniently forgotten to mention the Cairo and Potsdam Declarations.
            After the WW2, Japan, who was defeated in the war, has accepted the terms as declared in the “Cairo Declaration”:
            “Japan shall be stripped off all the islands of the Pacific which she has seized or occupied since the beginning of the First World War I, and that all the territories Japan has stolen from the Chinese, such as Manchuria ( Northeast China), Formosa (Taiwan), and the Pescadores (Penghu Archipelago), shall be restored to the Republic of China. Japan will also be expelled from all other territories which she has taken by violence and greed.” and the “Potsdam Declaration”:
            “The terms of the Cairo Declaration shall be carried out and Japanese Sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine.”
            It should be noted that nowhere in this Declaration, or any related documents is Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands declared as part of Japanese Sovereignty.

          • Far East

            “That’s not massacre” ??? I will let people reading this be judge….
            I do not mention the Cairo or Postdam declaration because they are ante to the Treaty of San Francisco. They were made at gun point, literally, in 1945 while the TSF was signed in 1952. By the principle of the rule of law, the latter takes precedence. And this is translated in the current situation unchallenged until 1970 when China heard there was oil below the Senkakus by the UN Far East Commission….. What hypocrisy….
            Incidentally, Taiwan signed a similar Treaty of SF with Japan, just days before the TSF went into force in 1952. You will probably be denying this, highlighting your ignorance on the subject.
            As I said, document yourself better.

          • Shuami

            ” I will let people reading this be judge….”
            Maybe you should. Nothing can be compared to atrocities by the JIA viscerally documented during the WW2. Even the Nazi Germans could not bring themselves to such beastly acts.
            “They were made at gun point”.
            Maybe you are referring to Treaty of Shimonoseki?!
            “I do not mention the Cairo or Postdam declaration because they are ante to the Treaty of San Francisco.”
            How can you justify the legality and validity of a treaty when China was not invited to participate despite being one of the main victims of the Japanese aggression?
            And you can familiar yourself with the objections lodged by both China and Soviet Union in the Wiki article “Treaty of San Francisco” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Francisco) under the sections “Soviet Union’s opposition to the Treaty” and “People’s Republic of China’s objections to the treaty”, since you are much into “document”.
            And here is some more “document” for you: a research paper (actually a thesis by a law school student, Martin Lohmeyer, at the University of Canterbury, New Zealand) on the subject of Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands, their legal and sorvereighty status. It’s a 250-page paper
            with over 800 references quoted, well researched, and more importantly in this case, by a 3rd party, neutral researcher. The paper is titled “The Diaoyu / Senkaku Islands Dispute: Questions of Sovereignty and Suggestions for Resolving the Dispute” and can be downloaded at:
            http://ir.canterbury.ac.nz /handle/10092/4085
            So take time reading it (instead of coming here making unsubstantiated assertion and spreading misinformation).
            And what’s the conclusion Mr. Lohmeyer draw regarding the sovereignty over Diaoyu/Senkaku? Quote:
            “The question of the legal historical sovereignty must be decided in China’s / Taiwan’s favour albeit Japan maintains the entire factual sovereignty since 1972. The Japanese refutation of having incorporated terra nullius in 1895 cannot be backed by the legal facts. Looking at the legal situation by interpreting the international treaties, the position of Japan seems to be rather weak in the light of the 1952 retrocession of the islands to the Chinese. The Chinese regained the formal legal title by the Treaty of Taipei.”
            I think this should be enough “documents” for you.

          • Far East

            You got to love your delusional view of the world.

            A thesis so called objective and whose title starts by calling it “Diaoyu” ? LOL….

            More seriously, and shorter and more to the point, let me refer you and everybody else to this hard historical facts, not some fancy point of view :
            http://www.sdh-fact.com/CL02_1/77_S4.pdf

            including a map from China recognizing the Senkaku belonging to Japan. Obviously they have removed this map since then, but a copy remains on Wikipedia:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PRCmap-senkakuislands.jpg

            As much as I would love to indulge me in this chit-chat, I have some other business to attend, and our little discussion has run its course, and does not provide much more value. Hopefully readers will understand the male fide of your argument, biased to make your points. Notwithstanding the mere fact that today’s Japan geography just contradicts your statement on Postdam declaration. The vast entirety of the world would disagree with you, but not that this will hold you back from making delusional claims :-)

            Talking about claim, why don’t you reflect on the following question:

            If China has such a strong case, why doesn’t it bring it to the International Court of Justice? Don’t worry, no need to embarrass yourself by answering.

          • Shuami

            “A thesis so called objective and whose title starts by calling it “Diaoyu”?
            The title of the thesis is “The Diaoyu / Senkaku Islands Dispute”, you idiot!
            It’s obvious that you haven’t read the article but judging it by its title only (even that you don’t have much base on as the author has list Senkaku also).
            The funny thing is, right after you question Mr. Lohmeyer’s 250-page (with 800 references) thesis for objectivity, you turned around and quoted me a 9-page article with no bibliography, and which was penned by a Japanese national. Who are you fooling with?
            But unlike you, I actually downloaded and read the article you referenced here (as it’s only 9-pages). the central thesis of that article by appears to want to dispute the arguments put forward by former Kyoto University professor Inoue Kiyoshi published in 1972 a book entitled The Senkaku Islands—Historical Analysis on Diayutai Islands. The arguments are:
            1) Diayutai Islands were not originally “no-man’s land” (terra nullius), but Chinese territory since the Ming Dynasty and
            2) Japan’s ownership of the Senkaku Islands was an act of robbery prompted by victory in the Sino-Japanese War.
            Upon reading this article, I don’t think the author has disputed these arguments at all.
            These two arguments, incidentally, are also key arguments discussed in details and at length in Mr. Lohmeyer’s thesis. There are numerous references in his thesis that Chinese has discovered used these islands as early as the early 1500′s. Just a sample of what’s covered:
            3.1.1. Chen Kan Mission in 1532
            3.1.2. Kuo Ju Lin Mission in 1561
            3.1.3. Xiao Chong Mission in 1576…etc. etc
            So the assertion that Shimojo Masao made in the article that “The Senkaku Islands were in no-man’s land ((terra nullus) until Japan made them a part of Japan” does not hold water at all.
            As I have noted in my debate with you over the alleged “fire control radar” incident (and the lack of the evidence to support such an accusation by the Japanese govt thereof),
            YOU CAN’T HANDEL THE TRUTH!

          • Far East

            If this so called thesis had titled “Senkaku / Diaoyu” I would have a closer look, since this is today worldwide recognized Jasnese territory, but a thesis titled “Diaoyu / Senkaku” tells me right from the start the bias of its author, so thanks,must no thanks.

            As for the rest of your typical Chinese government delusional claim, The Chinese government is merely trying to refer to some historical documents that mention those islands as a marker in their route to the Ryukyu (Okinawa, part of Japan), but emissary from China at the time used that route only 23 times during 507 years while the Ryukyu people went to China using their route 580 times from 1372 to 1879.

            Professor Masao Shimojo, Ph.D. from Kokugakuin University, is making the case backed with evidence that “it was after the Qing Dynasty establishment of the province of Taiwan that Taiwan became part of Chinese territory. In the Map of the Great Ming (Foreigners Section) compiled by the government in 1461 during the Ming Dynasty, the Penghutao (Pescadores) Islands, located between Fuchien Province and Taiwan, are a possession of the Ryukyus.”
            And also that there is “the Map of the Great Qing, geographical recognition that Jilongshan and Jilong Castle mark the northern boundary of Taiwan, and the Senkaku islands are nowhere on the map as a territory of Taiwan.”
            The fact is that it was Terra Nullius (no man’s land) until 1885 (before Sino-Japanese war) when Japan decided to conduct research in order to integrate them to its territory.
            Obviously this is you, who fail to handle the truth, since you continue to cherry pick pieces and bits of history to suit your view.

          • Shuami

            “…but a thesis titled “Diaoyu / Senkaku” tells me right from the start the bias of its author, so thanks, but no thanks.”
            Let me repeat: YOU CAN’T HANDEL THE TRUTH!
            Stop making laughable excuses–the author (Martin Lohmeyer) is a neutral, 3rd party researcher from New Zealand. And stop quoting from JAPANESE sources regarding this sovereignty issue (although I will still read them if you could at least provide the sources)–there are enough right-wingers in Japan to run the whole government!!
            “…why doesn’t it bring it to the International Court of Justice,…”
            Because no sovereign state would let a third party court decides an emotional issue regarding its territory! All border and territory issues are resolved by bilateral negotiation, or worse, military means.
            “The fact is that it was Terra Nullius (no man’s land) until 1885…”
            Another Japanese revisionist’s lie!!
            The Terra Nullius issue has been dealt extensively in Mr. Lohmeyer’s thesis. All other interested (I’ve given up hope on you) readers who are partial to facts and reasonable persuasion are encouraged to read his thesis, Again let me quote his conclusion regarding the sovereignty issue after extensive discussion and presentation of facts:
            “7.17. Conclusion of the sovereignty question
            The question of the legal historical sovereignty must be decided in China’s / Taiwan’s favour albeit Japan maintains the entire factual sovereignty since 1972. The Japanese refutation of having incorporated terra nullius in 1895 cannot be backed by the legal facts. Looking at the legal situation by interpreting the international treaties, the position of Japan seems to be rather weak in the light of the 1952 retrocession of the islands to the Chinese. The Chinese regained the formal legal title by the Treaty of Taipei.”

          • Far East

            Sure I can handle the truth, not just YOUR biased version of the truth.
            “the position of Japan seems to be rather weak in the light of the 1952 retrocession of the islands to the Chinese.”
            You still persist in dishonest distortion of the facts. The retrocessions of islands were to Taiwan, and NOT to China and about the Taiwan, Penghu, the Spratly Islands and the Paracel Islands. It is in the Treaty of San Francisco. Maybe you should read it. 50 nations signed it.
            At any rate they do NOT include the Senkaku as defined by article 3.
            This was consequently reflected by the retrocession of the Senkaku to Japan, simply because they were acquired BEFORE the Sino-Japanese war and thus not part of the Shimonoseki Treaty. Those are undisputed historical facts verifiable by anyone.
            Considering the conclusion of the thesis you mention, I have to conclude that either the guy has done poorly his research, but I have to conclude rather that he was heavily biased. Why does not matter so much. It is obvious enough.

          • Shuami

            “The retrocessions of islands were to Taiwan, and NOT to China”.
            The sentence reads “in the light of the 1952 retrocession of the islands to the CHINESE”. And by Chinese, it also includes Chinese residing on the island of Taiwan. Geez, you better learn how to read first before you try to carry out a debate here. Or maybe it’s just your nasty habit of ignoring fact and truth. Hence: YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
            “It is in the Treaty of San Francisco. 50 nations signed it.”
            How many times do I have to remind you that neither the PRC nor the ROC was invited and present at the signing of the Treaty of San Francisco?? It’s like me and your neighbor come up with an announcement that you don’t own your house (whoops, I forgot, you still staying at the psychiatric ward, right?) or your car. Such is the validity of your Treaty of San Francisco.
            “Those are undisputed historical facts verifiable by anyone.”
            Yes, and you conveniently omit some other facts such as the islands were not “terra nullius” at all before the Japanese “acquired” them. How can you “acquire” something that is already claimed and owned by somebody else? Coming from a wide-eyed liar and fact-denier like you, I am not surprised.
            “Considering the conclusion of the thesis you mention…”
            Maybe you could dispute the EVIDENCE presented FIRST BEFORE you attack the CONCLUSION??

          • Far East

            So for you, what are the people of Taiwan? Martians?

            But who cares you guys have not signed the Treaty of San Francisco? The rest of the world agrees on it with Japan. Tough for you.
            Not terra nullius. Sure it was. Check the wikpedia as well here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands_dispute

            Nobody lived there, until some Japanese started a factory there. And before that? Oh guess what, emissary from China at the time used that route only 23 times during 507 years while the Ryukyu (Okinawa) people went to China using their route 580 times from 1372 to 1879.

            Distorting facts to make your point, hu?

          • Shuami

            “So for you, what are the people of Taiwan? Martians?”
            Eh, Didn’t I say that they are Chinese (or Taiwanese, as some would refer)? As I said early, you need to learn how to read first (as you seem to have a selective tunnel vision–can only take in what you want to, and like to, see).
            “Not terra nullius.Sure it was. Check the wikpedia”.
            I checked, and here a paragraph in that article:
            “The PRC and the ROC argue that documentary evidence prior to the First Sino-Japanese War indicates Chinese possession and that the territory is accordingly a Japanese seizure that should be returned as the rest of Imperial Japan’s conquests were returned in 1945″
            Again, don’t just cherry-pick what you want, or like, to see.
            “Nobody lived there”. Just because nobody lives there does NOT mean it’s “terra nullius”. Better get your definition right.
            “…emissary from China at the time used that route only 23 times…”
            How’s that going to prove whether it’s “terra nullius” or NOT? Knock, knock, anybody there?!

          • Far East

            And by the way, I have read pieces of the Master of Law Thesis of this Martin Lohmeyer, and it looks more like a political research than a LLM thesis. The guy calls the territory throughout the document arbitrarily the “Diaoyu islands”. I mean please…. He has a HUGE bias. If I were him writing this thesis, I would have defined at the beginning that I would refer to those territories as “Territory in question” to remain politically neutral.
            His arguments are flimsy. Worth, although this is officially a Master of Law thesis, there are very little legal reference in his document. Not a very reliable work.

          • Shuami

            Well, good. That’s definitely a step forward. I applaud that.
            “The guy calls the territory throughout the document arbitrarily the “Diaoyu islands”.
            Now that’s an OUTRIGHT LIE!! He mostly refers to the Islands as Diaoyu/Senkaku. and occasionally Diaoyu OR Senkaku as it befits the context. I can’t help but to observe such pettiness in your argument and has to wonder whether I am wasting my time here.

          • Far East

            Nope sorry, but the guy do call it like that regularly throughout the document. The guy has a huge bias. Anyway, I guess anyone can check for themselves. Not surprising either, he is of his own admission a China-friendly student speaking Chinese.

          • Shuami

            ” I guess anyone can check for themselves. ”
            I highly recommend that they do.

          • Far East

            Yes, with the caveat that this is propaganda, and a fictious Master of Law Thesis considering that this has little to do with Law, but everything to do with politics. So people should set their expectation accordingly.

          • Shuami

            “this is propaganda”
            Let’s see–Mr. Lohmeyer is a kiwi (i.e. New Zealander). He picked this topic for his LLM thesis, in which he has consulted over 800 references for his research. Is there any evidence for you to accuse him of “propaganda”–besides the lame excuse that he chose to address the islands as “Diaoyu/Senkaku” instead of “Senkaku/Diaoyu”? Maybe you could at least provide ONE (1) example to support your accusation?
            “…has little to do with Law,”
            Mr. Lohmeyer devoted a whole chapter (chapter 4) examining the “Modes of Acquiring and Losing Territory”, and another chapter (chapter 5) on “Applicability of Intertemporal Law”.
            And you are saying that his thesis “has little to do with Law”? What have you been smoking??
            BTW. I highly recommend chapter 7, “Evaluation of the islands ownership” to any interested readers. This 70-page chapter examines evidences as presented from all parties involved–China, Japan, and Taiwan (as opposed to one-sided) and draws his conclusion which I have quoted in my posts earlier.

            Anybody who is inclined to truth and logical reasoning should read this–you would agree that this is a very objective article with extensive research.

          • Far East

            By the way, you should tell your friends at Chinese army to be more discret. Their hacking in many places in the world has been blown.
            http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/technology/chinas-army-is-seen-as-tied-to-hacking-against-us.html

          • Shuami

            At the very beginning when I engaged in debate with you, I have observed that you are inclined to employ two tricks in debate (or sophistry–a branch of trickery in debate that dates way back to the ancient Greek times of Socrates and Plato).
            Debate (sophistry) 101: Repeat your assertion (even it is false) constantly; it will eventually hypnotize your audience into believing it.
            Debate (sophistry) 102: Change the subject if you feel you can’t really win it.
            So sophistry 102 now?! Stick to the topic!
            As to your allegations–ever heard of CIA, or Mossad or KGB??

          • Far East

            It’s just part of the whole picture, but as you said eloquently, you can’t handle the truth ;-)
            This Chinese government is just a rogue bunch of aggressive and belligerent greedy Chinese, supporting dictatorships like North Korea, grabbing territories from many Asian nations, bullying them. They are trying to do the same with Japan after they woke up in 1970, since before, they never complained about the Senkaku, zilch, nothing.
            As I said, it is just part of the overall picture. Nothing surprising for a dishonest and belligerent nation. China has become today what Japan was during WWII. Shame on China….

          • Shuami

            I should add another trickery you regularly pull to your list of sophistry tricks:
            Sophistry 103: generalization (without proof) is your friend.
            So far you have managed to pull a hat trick already. What more tricks are in your hat??

          • Far East

            Since you refused to recognized Japan and Taiwan signed the equivalent of the San Francisco Treaty, let me share with you today’s piece of news ;-)
            Taiwanese President Ma Ying-jeou says China’s denial of the Treaty of Taipei signed by Taiwan and Japan has made it difficult for the two to work on their issues. 
            http://japandailypress.com/taiwan-states-it-will-not-collaborate-with-china-over-senkaku-diaoyu-dispute-1923639

          • Shuami

            I refused to “recognize(sig) Japan and Taiwan signed the equivalent of the San Francisco Treaty”?? READ the post I just posted earlier!! Quote:
            “Looking at the legal situation by interpreting the international
            treaties, the position of Japan seems to be rather weak in the light of the 1952 retrocession of the islands to the Chinese. The Chinese regained the formal legal title by the TREATY OF TAIPEI”. Surprise, surprise!!
            (source: “The Diaoyu / Senkaku Islands Dispute: Questions of Sovereignty and Suggestions for Resolving the Dispute”, Martin Lohmeyer, http://ir.canterbury.ac.nz/handle/10092/4085

      • Wai Yao Huang

        Banlas, sometimes it is best to understand both side. I am a Chinese living in Tokyo, and I can tell you this, not many Japanese did not feel ashamed for the war, most of them DO NOT want war to happen ever again. When you say Japanese evil heart, you are generalizing everything just like how some American or European generalized us the Chinese as cunning and illiterate (I have been a target of racism in UK for being Chinese). I learned to never group people in a country just because of few bad apples. Japan needs to open dialog regarding the dispute, but Chinese people needs to stop being aggressor. At the end of the day, Japanese and Chinese are both Asian, they need to band together like the West, not being played against each other.

        Are you even Chinese? or a Malay?

        • Banlas theway

          You appeared like lee teng hui, the half bred japanese and chinese freakenstein freak who love Japan so much that you forget how the Japanese treated you, your Chinese race as worst than animal. So nice of you to talk about the Japanese and Chinese as Asian when in your little brain, the Japanese have NEVER even think of themselves as Asians.

          • Wai Yao Huang

            Let`s just say I am a person who love humanity and wish people like never exists. I know you are a malay, since you comment on malay’s sites. and here is some words for you, in your own language, “Awak itu manusia sampah yang tidak mengerti dunia ini lebih besar daripada ego awak. jika awak punya otak, awak tak akan cakap macam orang buta!”. and yes, I speak fluent malay too, I live in enough place to know the world compare you to who never been anywhere!

          • A.C.

            Selamat pagi. – While I appreciate your calm and reasonable comments (like some others), I wonder what you guys get out of trying to discuss this with someone who is obviously only interested in trolling.

          • Shuami

            Hopefully one thing can be achieved–that is to keep the debate/discussion here civil.

          • Banlas theway

            As if you are the smartest person around, the rest of the other people are just dumb. Let me tell you that I spent almost 3/4 of my life traveling and stationed in almost every country in Asia, Australia, Canada, Europe and U.S. I speak fluent Thai, fluent Indonesians, fluent Mandarin, fluent Tagalog, fluent Malay, fluent Vietnamese, fluent Mandarin and even Taiwanese Minnan. But definitely no Japanese. So what type of nationalist I am?

            To your Chinese race, let me remind you of the following phrase, “No dog and chinese allowed”

          • Jambox

            You speaks fluent of bullshit! I can say I speak 12 languages too

          • Banlas theretard

            Your the retarded nationalist type who left a chromosome when you were born. Hope you dont marry and procreate (or dont rape anyone, you sound crazy enough to do it)

          • Banlasisascum

            We Chinese are smarter being than your Malaysian shit

          • chinese_suck

            The Japanese is the smartest. Why don’t you learn Japanese?

            Can you translate “No dog and chinese allowed” into chinese for me?

          • Chopchop2012

            Banlas theway. You don’t know what you’re talking.
            Actually you have small brain and living in small pond.
            I’m really sorry for you.

          • Shuami

            I don’t even feel sorry for you–for your outburst at others show that it is you who deserves all the derogatives you piled over others.

        • Shuami

          I agree with you. No society is monolithic. Don’t let the sometimes vocal and noisy extremists’ view and outburst distract you. Generalization is one trick used by these extremists. There are ultra-nationalist factions in every society and country. The truth is more often lying somewhere in between. I, however, disagree with one point in your post about Chinese being aggressive in the current island dispute (I believe that’s what you are referring to). Remember it is the opportunist Ishihara who started this “island purchase” fiasco by dusting off an issue that has been put on shelf by leaders of past administrations of both countries. China has to do something to show that there is dispute over these islands. Otherwise it would be taken as a consent to this so-called “nationalization” trick. All those marine surveillance boats being sent over to the islands is one way of demonstrating that.

        • Whirled Peas

          @Wai Yao Huang: Wow! You make so much sense. Thank you for your post! WP

      • http://www.facebook.com/maquivant Maquivant Ch

        Communist China corrupted government is the root of all evil on this earth also the criminal element in the world

        • Banlas theway

          You see my name and then decide whether I am a Chinese or not.

      • Chopchop2012

        How about the car hit you on the street or you got accident? And then, will you say Oh! God punish me for my sin?
        I feel sorry for your poor soul.

      • Banlas theretard

        We dont need racist retards like you here, much less in the world. Do us a favor and get hit by a japanese truck or something. Your family can get killed by muggers on xmas day too. One less racist and a few less extremist genes the world needs to worry about….

        • Banlas theway

          Fuck you Japanese bastards

          • RingoGaSukiDesu

            You criticise people for name calling, yet that is the best you can come up with? If you hate Japan so much then what the hell are you doing on a site with ‘Japan’ in the address? >.>

          • Banlasisascum

            You are a retarded troll, you are not even Chinese or Japanese yet you fuel fud. Worse scum of the earth! And you call us Chinese dog? You are fucking moron Malay shit

          • chinese_suck

            you said you speak fluent many foreign languages. I assume you are an educated person but why you always use bad words like F, Sh… Is that how well educated people recognized in china? I heard that never trust china because it says this but do other.

          • Karma

            We all pray that all the hate you sprew out to others, comes back to you. You are a sad lonely person.

      • chinese_suck

        Nanking massacre is a fake.

  • Booyah24

    It’s interesting. He appears to be Taiwanese. He has his PhD from Caltech and has been living in the US for almost 40 years. And now he’s shilling for China. Something doesn’t add up.

    • Chopchop2012

      Someone like this guy who will spy for Communist China.
      He or his family must have business interest in Communist China.

      • Shuami

        This is pure hearsay. I doubt if you have ever heard of his name before.

    • Guest

      When you were getting old your brain would always lead you to the good old days. And this is exactly what happens to this old Chinese PhD. Beside that he possibly thinks that the US as “no country for an old man”. Therefore, he wants to prepare a place for himself in CN and never know his name may be published or recorded in CN history book or may be a teaching place in Beijing Uni. Jacky Chan is one of those: when he was young he worked as.* to gain a place in US to be rich but he now starts to criticise the US as the corrupted country in the world without any data to prove his point. You won’t see this type of acts from the full energy, full confident of the young Chinese-American.

      • Shuami

        I think the Abe government could use a few defenders with higher IQs.

        • Guedt

          Your saying is true in CN. As I have said to you and your 50 cents members such Tony Ed, Topolcat, OMG!, Redcliff…in Global Times CN “I am a freeman and I am a Chinese”, I don’t lick JP, VN, Phil or US as* , my opinions are based on fact that CN has gone too far away from reality, the greedy, aggressive, warmonger will lead CN to nowhere. CN is better waking up before too late.

    • Shuami

      Maybe I should bring it to your attention that the governments on BOTH sides of Taiwan straits claim sorvereighty over Diaoya Islands (Taiwan calls them Diaoyutai). So time for those China bashers to drop the label “communist” from their scoldings. It has nothing to do with “communist”, but have everything to do with China as a nation and its people.

      • Booyah24

        I never said anything about “communist.”

        • Shuami

          I never said YOU did, I said “time for THOSE China bashers…”

  • http://www.facebook.com/maquivant Maquivant Ch

    Communist China corrupted government and its bastards are all evil on this planet.

  • Chopchop2012

    Professor Chang go back to Communist China and teach Communist leaders for how to behave civilized manner in International.
    Communist China is never friend of US.
    How much he received money and business favor from Communist Chinese Government?
    He may change his voice one day when Communist Chinese Government put in the jail.

  • Aaron M.

    Those “japanese bastards” are our good friends and allies. Anybody could say they would turn their backs on us at any time, but I promise you this; you won’t say that when American and Japanese fight side-by-side against the enemy in the next big war.
    It isn’t the Second World War anymore, times have changed and so has public opinion.

  • Tacoma

    When America was in War with Japanese in WWII, Japanese- America was fought side of America. When US and China start WWIII, Chinese-America, will be on Chinese side. That will be 100% sure.

    • yamahaaa

      They are traitors, they would never appreciate how the US looked after them and their children when they ran away from their own countries.

      I have seen those Chinese-Vietnamese at work, they have never considered themselves as Vietnamese even they came to the US under the Vietnamese Refugee program.
      The US please be aware of those rats.