Chinese media says Obama ‘snubbed’ Abe on Senkaku issue

Chinese media says Obama ‘snubbed’ Abe on Senkaku issue

China’s state media, the Xinhua news agency, reported yesterday that Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was not able to obtain specific words of support for Japan from United States President Barack Obama with regard to the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands dispute. Xinhua said that “Washington weighed between a desire to enhance traditional ties with Tokyo against a growing need to cultivate healthy relations with Beijing,” adding that the US government played down the issue and intentionally refrained from giving explicit support to Japan.

According to Xinhua, this was “contrary to Abe’s great hope of showing off the ‘robust’ U.S.-Japan alliance.” It took note of Obama’s short statements after the meeting with Abe and absence of any mention regarding the territorial rift between Japan and China. Although, the publication did acknowledge that Obama stressed that his country’s alliance with the East Asian nation was the “central foundation for our regional security and so much of what we do in the Pacific region.”

It said that Abe’s demeanor “was somewhat restrained by Washington’s snub,” in contrast to the “aggressive and rash statements” he had said prior to his departure from Tokyo. Xinhua went on to say that the result of Abe’s visit “manifested the U.S. attempts to strike a tricky balance” and clearly showed that the U.S. “hated seeing its highly interwoven ties with Beijing damaged by Japan’s rash behavior.”

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  • Whirled Peas

    President Obama did NOT snub PM Abe. PM Abe and Obama both have a clear understand that the US can not come out and openly support Japan on the territorial dispute. Hillary Clinton already stated the US position that it takes no position on the dispute, but we will honor the US-Japan Security Treaty which includes defense of Japan’s administration of the Senkakus if push comes to shove, and we should all hope it doesn’t come to that! It’s astounding and weird how the Xinhua Press injects into its reportage these images of a chagrined Abe and an Obama who supposedly “hated seeing its highly interwoven ties with Beijing damaged by Japan’s rash behavior.” More to the point, the US is annoyed and alarmed at Beijing’s increasingly aggressive behavior in Asia. If Xinhua’s reportage was an opinion piece, maybe it would be acceptable to editorialize as it has, but I believe the report was passing for news. Good journalism draws the line between fact (who, what, where, when, how) and opinion crafted by spin doctors!

    • Far East

      Exactly, thanks for confirming that. Anyway, very few people outside China reads Xinhua crappy propaganda that resembles more China best buddy North Korea TV news than real and objective information. In a way, it is good, because had they been smarter, it would have been troublesome for Japan.

  • boom

    of course they would sat that. China is completely prejudiced and biased towards japan that they always try to smear dirt on all their efforts. i don’t trust a damn word from Chinese media simply because they never look at anything from two sides, only theirs. I have yet to see any chinse report on japan that shows Japan in a different light, or even consider japan’s side of things. Japan on the other hand, simply states that facts that one side claims something while the other claims the same thing, they don’t go out of their way to claim china’s claim is weaker or stupid, just what china did and how they feel. And if any report does claim china’s stance is weak, it’s usually because they quote someone or it’s an opinion page. China, on the other hand, simply tells everyone they are right and japan is wrong any chance they get.

    And before anyone claims japan is just as bad, true, in some cases, i can’t deny you find the odd article around that tries to insult china, but not all of them, and that’s my point. China’s media is completely out against japan, while japan has media that does not takes sides and simply reports. in the end, i trust the un biased one’s over the excessively patriotic.

    And in my opinion. If what china says is true about the islands, then i still don’t think they should keep the islands. Think about it, in the end they only made a fuss when they found true value in the islands, before they did not even care. I believe that Japan deserves the islands because they have been more responsible for them, while with china, they are basically that kid who threw a toy away and wanted it back as soon as they saw someone else play with it.

    Truth be told, i reckon both sides should get together, share all their evidence and create a timeline on their stances on the islands. Then the whole world can see it. But in the end, China should of made the claims to islands ages ago, the whole world is simply going to see them as people who don’t take care of their things unless they want it.

    Bottom line: if something belongs to you, do what you have to to get it back from DAY 1. regardless of it’s value. otherwise you don’t deserve it and whoever picks it up and cares for it deserves it more than you. China wasted over 70 years, they should of done something sooner and THEN would their claims be absolutely solid. unfortunately, they didn’t so now there’s room to doubt them

  • Tacoma

    Again, Chinese will use Media to win the war, That the plan and cultrue of chinese. For people don’t know how to fight.
    Did US helped Japanese win any war before? Chinese just blind at front of history. Funny!

  • Far East

    The Chinese government would certainly love to be that way, but they are not so lucky. Kerry, the U.S. Secretary of State, reiterated the strong U.S. support to Japan stating they oppose any move that undermine Japanese control over the Senkaku islands. A wet dream on part of the Chinese maybe? ;-)

  • Guest

    The US congress has clearly said Senkaku is covered by the security treaty between US & JP. The world has heard what the US, shouldn’t CN? Why should JP or the US keep repeating somethings that have been agreed by both parties? By the way, even without the help from the US I am doubtful if CN could defeat JP in any scale on sea battle.
    CN seems to attempt to use any excuse to spread the false info to redirect its people away from its own internal issues.

  • chinditone

    Obama is no fool!! After Abe accused China of having an ongoing pathological need for violence – and informing the world that he was going to go to the US to meet Obama and get Obama’s backing on the Diaoyou Islands – it is not surprising that a wise Obama forbade him discussing the stolen Diaoyou Ilands. Obama also well knew that the Hilary Clinton and Kurt Campbel “team” went too far in saying that the US does not support any unilateral action on the Diaoyou’s which rightly drew Chinese criticism – because it was not US policy – it was not an Obama policy – but 100% a unilateral Hilary policy!! Thankfully – the “pathologically anti Chinese team” of Campbell + Clinton – have now gone – as they made the US PIvot 100% military and 100% anti China – and some common sense may now prevail in the US/China relationship. Only an idiot would allow themselves to be suckered into defending some stolen rocks by Japan – and Japan’s lies and excuses over the Diaoyou’s have run out. It is highly unlikely that the US would have a nuclear or even regional war over the rocks and so Japan is on very shaky ground in pushing the US on this. China yesterday rightfully declared Japan’s control of the Diaoyou as illegal and invalid. Its all here in Wikipedia- read the China position – China controlled the islands from circa 1370 to 1895 when Jpan illegally sole them. The Potsdam Declaration and teh Cairo Convention said that the Diaoyou Islands should not be part of Jpans stolen assets after WW2 – but the US unilaterally handed them over to Jpan for adminsitration. By purchasing the Diaoyou islands – Japan thought they could steal them from under the noses of the Chinese. Big big mistake. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands_dispute

    • Whirled Peas

      Please carefully read the original Postdam and Cairo Declarations again, not the paraphrased China wiki version. There is nothing in either declaration that talks about the S/D islands at all. And neither do the Treaty of Taipei nor the SF Treaty say anything about the islands.

      • chinditone

        Mr Whirled Peas – you are what I termed on another thread – a charming liar – but still a liar. You deliberately failed to read the documents and posts that I posted showing the truth – and continued being aan spologist for a nasty Japan. Abe did say that China has a deeply ingrained need for conflict – which is a disgrace. http://japandailypress.com/pm-abe-says-chinese-have-deeply-ingrained-need-for-conflict-2123790 . Obviously – once the Japanese realized that what Abe had said was a deeply racist and nasty thing to say – and showed Abe’s attitude to China – the Japanese backtracked. There is no way on the planet that Obama could talk about the stolen Diaoyou Islands with a man – that had descended to literally cursing China. Unfortunately for the US – once you start assocaiting with thieves – and treating them as partners – then people around the world are going to think that you are a thief.

        The Potsdam Declaration shows that the US is a joint thief with Japan on the Diaoyou issue.

        “According to the Cairo Declaration, the Potsdam Proclamation and other important proclamations of international conferences, Japan’s occupation of Diaoyu Islands was a grave breach of international law. The Cairo Declaration, concluded by China, the US and Britain on December 1, 1943, stipulated that “all territories Japan stolen from the Chinese, such as Manchuria, Formosa and the Pascadores, shall be restored to the Republic of China”. On July 26, 1945, China, the US and Britain issued the Potsdam Proclamation. (The Soviet Union attended this meeting on August 8.) Article Eight highlighted that “The terms of the Cairo Declaration shall be carried out and Japanese sovereignty shall be limited to the Islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine.” On August 15, 1945, the Mikado of Japan accepted the Potsdam Proclamation and surrendered unconditionally.”

        Read carefully Mr Swivelling Vegetable!! Its all here. http://wiki.china.org.cn/wiki/index.php/Diaoyu_Island

        • Whirled Peas

          I repeat, please do not rely on the China wiki to examine and understand the two declarations. Go directly to the primary sources. It is you who are avoiding the true facts by continually quoting the China wiki’s wishful interpretation of the Potsdam and Cairo Declarations, instead of studying the actual documents.Simply look at the primary documents and you will see NO reference to the S/D islands because they were not considered war booty! And again, with regard to Japan being limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, and Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine,the S/D islands are as minor as they get (more like barren rocks).

          I have indeed read and tried to respond to your posts one by one. If you are talking about my not addressing your post listing maps from ancient times, I have addressed that twice ( on different threads) by saying that time travel to a period one THINKS is advantageous to one’s country cuts both ways. If China wants to cite old boundaries of the Ming/Qing dynasty (which are still questionable) it must also accept the fact that other countries and regions also had old boundaries before China conquered them and incorporated them into China. So you take the good with the bad. The bad being China was nowhere near as large in those past periods, and other countries/regions were happy not to be under China’s control. If we even go back to 1850, China was only 40% of what it is now: no Tibet, Xinjiang, or Mongolia. It did own Korea but I’m sure the Koreans would prefer today’s independence to their being ruled by China. If China wants to claim territory by citing ancient maps (which are still being contested) then to be consistent it must honor the old maps and boundaries of those nation-states or regions that were not yet under China’s control at that very time. But you must understand that this extreme irredentist approach to territory opens up a huge can of worms: balkanization of China (as regions use China’s very logic to themselves secede based on old boundaries) and this will surely lead to chaos, which is not in China’s interest.

          • Truth

            You make a good point Peas. Shina was never one in the way they attempt to portray it.

            Honestly, these people is ridiculous. Not quite as extremely ridiculous as Korea over such matters but ridiculous on a far large scale. It is behaving like a big spoilt baby throwing its toys around and attempting to bully others.

            I think the break up of China into regional stated will be the liberation of its people and the start of a new renaissance not just for the region but also the world.

            And that is what the Communist Party and its billionaire cronies are all about trying to stop. Japan is just a convenient whipping post.

          • Tran-VN

            You are absolutely right. This is exactly what I have been tried to explain to the Chinese nationalist in Global Times CN, not only one but many times but it seems those can’t accept this hard fact. They love to read a portion of the declaration and love to pick a certain period in the history of CN to spread all false, other words not full picture, info. Those Chinese will never reason the CN gov for not engaging ICJ or any international court to resolve the issue on peace.
            In Bejing there is a restaurant which puts up a sign something like “No Japanese, Vietnamese, Filipinos and dogs allowed”. In a such controlled communist country as CN, how can this thing be allowed if the government is not intentionally ignoring it?
            I am really disappointed with CN and hope that the world should take some actions together to bring CN back inline, else CN wiould cause another world war which might cost billion of lives.

    • Whirled Peas

      WASHINGTON POST TRANSCRIPT EXCERPTS FROM ABE INTERVIEW 2-20-2013:

      For your convenience, taken from the 5 page transcript:

      PM ABE: ” …That is to say, the mood and atmosphere created by the
      education in China attaching importance on patriotism which is in effect
      focusing on anti-Japanese sentiment — is in turn undermining their friendly relationship with Japan and having an adverse effect on its economic growth. And the Chinese government is well aware of this.”

      Washington Post INTERVIEWER: “Okay, so if you are going to follow this theory through, it means the problem in China is VERY INGRAINED [my CAPs]. How does Japan counter that, and do you see any solution to the maritime issue, and more broadly, between Japan and China in their overall relationship?”

      PM ABE: “What is important, first of all, is that their leaders as well as
      business leaders recognize how DEEPLY INGRAINED THIS ISSUE IS [my CAPS]. Because without having this recognition, they will not be able to find a solution that can produce results.In this context, I wish to make the point that without economic growth, they will not be able to control the1.3 billion people in China under the one-party rule by the Communist Party.”

      Okay, judge for yourself. Did Abe say Chinese have a “deeply ingrained need for conflict” or as you put it: “an ongoing pathological need for violence.” Read the transcript. You may still not like what Abe did say, but he didn’t say what he was quoted as saying. Washington Post should know better.