Japan mulling over release of Chinese radar data in Senkaku row

Posted on February 11, 2013 by Ida Torres in National with 32 Comments
Japan mulling over release of Chinese radar data in Senkaku row

Japan says that it may release recorded radar data as evidence to prove that a Chinese naval frigate locked its fire-control radar onto a Japanese ship near the disputed Senkaku islands. The Japanese government said this after Beijing rejected accusations it had targeted the destroyer last month.

The two nations are embroiled in an intense territorial dispute over the islands, known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China. Japan has assumed control over the islands, which are also claimed by Taiwan. “The government is considering the extent of what can be disclosed,” Japanese Defence Minister Itsunori Onodera said. The action is being considered as China has continued to insist that its ship was only using ordinary surveillance radar. Earlier this week, Mr. Onodera said a Japanese military helicopter was also targeted with a similar type of radar by another Chinese frigate on January 19.

On Friday, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe called on the Chinese government and military to acknowledge the January 30 incident and apologize. But China’s Defense Ministry has denied these allegations, saying that they “were against the facts” and they are urging Japan to “stop stirring up tension in the East China Sea”. In its statement, the Chinese Defense Ministry further added that in each incident, the Chinese vessel “kept normal observation and alert, and fire control radar was not used”.

Since the row over the Senkakus started up again last September, Chinese vessels have been traveling in and out of what Japan says are territorial waters around the islands, prompting the heightened warnings from Tokyo.

[ via BBC ]
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  • Far East

    Oops. A bit embarrassing for this Chinese Government. Caught in the act, then denying, but now faced with the embarrassing possibility of being exposed. Difficult to get out of that one. At least, it shows to the world what kind of deceitful and in overall unreliable State this is. Best to invest in other Asian countries more reliable like Vietnam, The Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia. They are much more cooperative and not belligerent !

    • Banlas theway

      How many times do we need to hear the word, “May” or “Going to”. If the murderous Japanese have nothing to prove, there should just shut up and apologize to China as well as return the stolen war loot, Diaoyu Islands back to China. Otherwise as usual the Japanese are just great cock bullshitters.

      • Far East

        Ahhhh, the classic Chinese propaganda :-)

        I am not going to waste my time explaining you since you are obviously a Chinese Government agent like there are thousands on the web spreading your government propaganda :-)

        Cheers, and I wish you a good day anyhow !

        • Banlas theway

          What propaganda that you accusing me of? Can the Japanese chickens just release the radar data that they accused the Chinese of doing. It’s already a week ago and yet we continue to hear bullshit excuses like ,”Maybe” or “Going to”

          • Far East

            Don’t be so hasty. Everything will come in due time when the Japanese government will have decided. You guys are so aggressive and belligerent. Tss tss.

          • Banlas theway

            The world will watch how he Japanese bastards will lie thru their rotten teeth

          • Far East

            China is known to have played this lying game of deception. Now it got caught in the act. It is time it is shown to the world this Chinese government is rogue, aggressive and belligerent, supporter of countries like North Korea and Iran. There should be a vote to remove them from the UN Security Council. They have infringed already on many aspects of the UN Charter.

            The parts of the UN charter infringed upon by the Chinese Government are in particular article 1(1)[1], article 1(2)[2], 2(3)[3], 2(4)[4], article 33(1)[5]. And of course not to mention the article 55(c) that they are already violating[6]. Interestingly article 94 provides clarity as to why the Chinese Government is not pursuing their claim on the Senkaku islands to the International Court of Justice[7], since under this article it would be forced to comply with the decision of ICJ, which in this case would be in favor of Japan.

            Maybe they should endure the consequence of article 6: “A Member of the United Nations which has persistently violated the Principles contained in the present Charter may be expelled from the Organization by the General Assembly”

            [1] “suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace”
            [2] “develop friendly relations among nations”
            [3] “All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means”
            [4] “All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state”
            [5] “The parties to any dispute, the continuance of which is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, shall, first of all, seek a solution by negotiation, enquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement”
            [6] “universal respect for, and observance of, human rights and fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion.”
            [7] “Each Member of the United Nations undertakes to comply with the decision of the International Court of Justice in any case to which it is a party.”

          • InquringMind

            Do talk about Cairo and Potsdam Declarations which specified Japan unconditional surrender,
            “all the territories Japan has stolen from the Chinese, such as Manchuria, Formosa, and the Pescadores, shall be restored to the Republic of China”
            “Japanese sovereignty shall be limited to the islands of Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, Shikoku”.
            Do talk about China’s national divide between China and Japan based on Okinawa trench to UNCLOS.
            Korea had also submitted national divide between Korea and Japan based on Okinawa Trench to UNCLOS.
            Japan is totally ignored all the above details!

          • Far East

            You pick bits and pieces of history that suits your allegation. You are purposedly ignoring the San Francisco Treaty of 1952 signed by over 50 nations including Taiwan (on April 28th 1952) and that recognizes today’s Japan territory with its article 3 that set the region of territories to be returned to Japan, such as the Nansei Shoto that includes Senkaku.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Francisco

            There was even a Chinese map of 1969 formally recognizing Senkaku as Japanese territory. Obviously this map does not exist anymore in China : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PRCmap-senkakuislands.jpg

            Other documents showing Chinese recognition of Japanese ownership can be found here : http://www.sdh-fact.com/CL02_1/77_S4.pdf

            Cheers

          • InquringMind

            You are guilty on what you had accused what other person did just like the same game Japan is playing now!

            Do checked your reference closely.

            “on June 9, 1952.[4] Neither the Republic of China in Taiwan nor the People’s Republic of China in mainland China were invited because of the Chinese Civil War and the controversy over which government was legitimate. As a consequence of U.K.-U.S. disagreement over Chinese participation”

            Stop blowing smoke onto people’s eyes!
            This is the age of internet!
            How come you did not talked about what China and Korea had submitted to UNCLOS about national divide between China and Japan, Korea and Japan?

          • Far East

            Oh so now you remember there was the Treaty of San Francisco right ? Your memory is coming back up ? ;-)

            China did not sign the Treaty because you guys were at civil war.

            50 other nations did. Live with it. Those are just facts. You don’t like it ? Well tough.

            Taiwan signed the same Treaty with Japan, as I have mentioned on April 28th 1952. This is just history.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Francisco
            “A separate treaty, the Treaty of Taipei, formally known as the Sino-Japanese Peace Treaty, was signed in Taipei on April 28, 1952, between Japan and the Republic of China, just hours before the Treaty of San Francisco went into effect.” (quoting from Wikipedia)

            China is not submitting any proceedings to the International Court of Justice simply because it knows it will lose and the decision can legally be enforced against China and very publicly to the International Community.

          • InquringMind

            All those empty words and meaningless arguments.
            This is 2013 now not 1800s or 1930s.
            China is holding largest Japan national debts.
            China is world number 2 economy and Japan is number 3.
            Can’t kept crying over spilled milk!
            Japan is depending on China’s market right now!
            Japan can be tough all it wants and just kiss China market goodbye.

          • Far East

            Ha ha you’re just too funny. I see you’re embarrassed now, and want to change subject….
            China is heavily endebted. Japan is one of the richest country in the world with its individuals owning over $15 trillion of financial assets ! You can always dream of this. While you’re dreaming, dream of all the brands and respectability Japan enjoy :-)
            I wish you a good day anyhow.

          • InquringMind

            Who was doing name calling in the first place?
            Just like the Japanese, so quick to change the fact to fit it’s needs!

          • Far East

            I dare you to find one post from me where I did name calling. I don’t need to do so to make my point.
            Yours at the countrary reflects some nasty habits on your part.

          • InquringMind

            Typing Japanese’s self fulfilling prophecy!
            Trying so hard to yell first with those empty words and meaningless argument.
            Keep hoping from subject to subject to fit your purpose!

          • Far East

            Now you’re talking about you, right ?
            As I told you already, but you seem to suffer from memory loss, I am not Japanese.

        • InquringMind

          Typical Japanese self denial propaganda is there is one!
          Crying and whining are so typical of Japan today!
          Glossing over important facts to try to win any argument is so becoming of Japan!

          • Far East

            Whatever you say. I could not care less since I am not Japanese.
            The only thing though is that I refernce abd nack my argument with proven facts and reference. Not by spreading propaganda like this Chinese Government army of 50-cents agents paid to scout the web in a lame attempt to sway public opinion.
            You’re missing the point that foreigners like me knows the trught and are obviously ready to defend a respectable country such as Japan, or other for that matter (like The Philippines, Vietname, South Korea, etc)

          • InquringMind

            Offer no subject related facts, dancing around the topic with name calling is not amusing anymore!

          • Far East

            I amm glad you admit to that and recognize you should stop.
            Bring some facts, be objective and fair, and you’ll see. You’ll gain credibility.

        • InquringMind

          Treaty of Peace between the Republic of China and Japan on 4/28/1952 was to reaffirmed the Cairo and Potsdam declarations.
          It was not the same as Treaty San Francisco as you had tried to form the association between them earlier!
          Like I said earlier, this is the age of internet!
          Playing with words and taking words out of context is so much like Japan.
          Are you sure that you are not Japanese like you had said earlier?

          • Far East

            Nope, sorry. Nice try though, but this Treaty is the same as the Treaty of San Francisco, only it was signed “just hours before the Treaty of San Francisco went into effect.”. Check the Wikipedia page if you don’t believe me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Francisco

            Cheers

      • Guest

        Are you dumb or playing dumb? JP gov can’t just release all info to the media as those are sensitive military secret, releasing everything will mean JP has let CN knows exactly JP’s capability.

        • Banlas theway

          Dumb. What dumb? You are a moron to believe that the Japanese can take more than a week just to prove China is wrong. They are probably creating some false evidence just like they created the cartoon movies with big fucking eyes Japanese

        • InquringMind

          Japan should had provided the proof when it was making the accusation.
          Japan is just crying wolf and whining as usual then!

    • InquringMind

      Potsdam and Cairo Declarations.
      Treaty of San Francisco. 9/8/1951
      China and Taiwan were not included.
      Treaty of Peace between the Republic of China and Japan on 4/28/1952
      It was to reaffirmed Potsdam and Cairo Declarations.
      Who is embarrassing now with those empty words and meaningless argument.
      Who is offering no subject related facts, dancing around the topic with naming calling and it is not amusing anymore.
      This is the age of internet.
      Do check your references carefully before starting those faulty accusations like what Japanese are doing now!

      • Far East

        I am glad that your memory is coming back.
        Now make an extra effort and realize that the Treaty with Taiwan was just about the same as the Treaty of San Francisco. See, I have read it, you have not. And if I were you, I would be more careful, because you do not know who you are exchange posts with ;-)

  • MickEye

    Potentially a MASSIVE embarassment for the chinese govt! To be unmasked in front of the international community as the LIARS..

    This leads many to ask about what other LIES do they spread about Tibet? About falun gong? About child labor? about abuse of the environment? about oppression of their own people? about the 9-dash line? about intellectual property rights infringements? about hacking on the global scale? about corruption in high places?
    tsk, tsk, tsk.. what a shame!!

    • Banlas theway

      Prove it before you open your big dirty mouth.

    • Shuami

      As it turned out, it is ACTUALLY a MASSIVE embarrassment for the Japanese govt! Who is red-faced now?! So you don’t really have a royal flush after all when the Chinese govt has called the Japanese govt bluffing, yeah?!

  • allen zhao

    How Japan lied about the Rape of Nanking. What wonderful fucking lies and they dont deserve some shame?